Sono le 3 di notte e non ho risposto neanche alla metà delle email che mi continuano ad arrivare dopo la trasmissione.
Non so come fare! Forse dovrei mandare una risposta unica per tutti, rimandandoli qui, in modo da gestire pubblicamente le domande e le discussioni. Datemi un consiglio…
Ho un sacco di filmati e documenti interessanti sulle tecnologie già esistenti, ma dovete avere ancora un po’ di pazienza.
Nel frattempo vi faccio vedere questo filmato che mostra il comportamento di un rat-bot appena nato…
Pensate che i neuroni di ratto vengono nutriti con un liquido molto simile alle normali bevande energetiche e ogni due giorni devono pulire la vaschette dalle loro deiezioni!
La loro vita può durare anche qualche anno, ma la loro curva di apprendimento si arresta dopo due mesi.
10.000 neuroni di ratto ricevono impulsi dai sensori ultrasonici e mandano comandi alle parti meccaniche. Si auto-organizzano e si dividono i compiti: C’è chi pensa alla ruota destra, chi a quella sinistra, ecc. Così imparano a muoversi nello spazio.
Warwick mi diceva che sono troppo potenti rispetto ai loro compiti. I prossimi modelli avranno molti più sensori…
postumano 
Ciao Daniele, drazie x la tua risposta! Spero che un giorno la tecnologia possa aiutare tante persone x guarire le malatie graveí … lo seguiro con tanta speranza :o)
Intanto grazie x la risposta alla mia e-mail per fare esempi sulla mia pagina di facebook Catania Marco ci sono i primi 2 video che parlano di futuro con immagini davvero spettacolari e come queste sul web ce davvero tanto…..spero davvero ci sia una esplosione di post. Ciao e grazie
Grazie per la risposta.
In tutta sincerità credo che noi o almeno io ne so poco, penso che i cyborg siano già pronti o almeno in dirittura d’arrivo..
A noi fanno vedere solo la minima parte del lavoro….
Ciao
Non sapevo che fossimo già arrivati a questo punto, usare neuroni di esseri viventi per dar vita a cyborg autonomi… incredibile!
Comunque Daniele, riguardo alle tue e-mail, ti consiglio di fare come hai già pensato tu, ovvero di mandare una risposta unica a tutti e mandarli qui.
Già…però ti consiglierei di trammutare anche il blog in un forum… o aggiungere il forum sul blog… diviso per sezioni ecc. sarebbe ancora più bello. Comunque, hanno parlato di neuroni umani…… sarei interessato a sapere da dove derivano i primi neuroni che intendono recuperare anche se un’idea me la sono già fatta.
Un blog è la cosa più logica in effetti… forse diventa caotica… vedremo 😀
Però cercherò un paio di cose e te le farò avere.
Riguardo al rat-bot… è una sofisticazione del concetto di cyborg o è un robot?
Nel senso.
Il cervello deve essere intero e completo per considerare che impiantato dentro una macchina dia origine ad un cyborg?
O bastano poche cellule?
Battezzandolo con quel bot finale è chiaro l’intento di chi l’ha creato di differenziarlo da un cyborg, per molti motivi anche etici è più facile da gestire per la scienza.
Ciao Daniele grazie per la tua risposta. Intanto vorrei ringraziarti per esserti reso disponibile a trattare questi argomenti con tutti.
Lavoro nel campo ospedaliero e pensare alle colture di cellule cerebrali da usare per dare un’ intelligenza ad un mezzo meccanico è semplicemente sbalorditivo.
Per le e-mail sicuramente faresti prima ma se devo essere sincera si perde un po “l’emozione” (concedimi il termine) di una risposta personalizzata.
Mi piacerebbe un sacco vedere come funzionano dal vivo questi Cyborg e sono pronta a vedere tutti i futuri post o discussioni su questol argomento.
Ciao
Ciao a tutti,
tra i vari argomenti trattati nel servizio televisivo quello dei rat-bot mi ha lasciato particolarmente diviso tra ammirazione per il risultato ottenuto ed i quindi maggiori risultati ottenibili, e la preoccupazione per le implicazioni: se non ho capito male, questi neuroni ricevono informazioni dai sensori e in base a questo decidono dove muoversi. Questo è a dir poco impressionante, il fatto che “decidano” di muoversi in una direzione implica il fatto che debbano “pensare”: per muoversi devono pensare a dove andare e quando andare, dove fermarsi e quando farlo, visto che si “suddividono” i compiti e comunicano tra di loro per “prendere una decisione”, sii può a mio parere dire che questo è un essere pensante…al di la che possano essere utilizzate cellule neuronali di topo piuttosto che umane, cosa differenzia questa “creatura” da un “normale” essere vivente??
Non fraintendete, non intendo assolutamente dire che questo sia un passo sbagliato che non si deve fare, tutt’altro…il mio è solo un voler focalizzare l’attenzione sul fatto che probabilmente tra un po dovremo estendere il senso di “creatura vivente”…
E un’altra domanda che mi sorge spontanea è: ma se è in grado di pensare… possiede una propria coscienza? e di domande come queste me ne vengo moltissime senza tirare in ballo la presenza dell’anima o meno…
per ora mi fermo…
ciao a tutti
Gio
gio anche io come te sono rimasto scioccato da questo serizio. prima di tutto per l’enorme scoperta nel campo della replicazione neurale. infatti le cellule del cervello non hanno capacità replicative o comunque sono lente. la capacità di replicare neuroni è un grosso passo in avanti per gli studi sulle malattie degenerative. per quanto riguarda i rat-bot da quanto ho capito dal servizio di DANIELE , essi sonono dotati di poche cellule nervose che per essere precisi non sono capaci di pensare riflettere o decidere ma bensì di “memorizzare” informazioni sul percorso fatto e evitaare eventuali scontri. ma spero che DANIELE ci spiegherà più in dettaglio. certo se si riuscisse a comporre un maggior numero di cellule esso lo si potrebbe impiantare in un cyborg. la cosa che mi preoccupa di più è se un eventuale cervello tecnologico comprometta tutte le scelte dettate dal cuore spontanee e irrazionali ma comunque significative per la nostra vita, a discapito di logica matematica e puro calcolo delle probabilità, segueno quindi ciò che è più favorevole e no ciò che è più giusto. che ne pensate?
Il passo da qui all’autocoscienza dei robot è breve . un futuro prossimo alla skynet di terminator vi pare così impossibile? Se un computer decidesse che gli esseri umani sono inutili o da eliminare perché “consumano solo risorse” chi potrebbe fermarlo visto che ormai siamo cablati e la strada verso la digitalizzazione di TUTTO sembra inesorabile?
Il fatto che un robot sia comandato da un cervello animale è una cosa sbalorditiva. Non tanto per il fatto in sè, quanto per il fatto che quel piccolo robot ha una capacità che lo rende infinitamente superiore ad ogni altro(magari più sofisticato) robot di tipo integralmente meccanico: quel robot è in grado di imparare. Cioè, si è costruito un essere pensante. E posso immaginare che di qui a poco si amplieranno di molto le applicazioni di questa nuova concezione di robotica, e chissà dove si arriverà. Magari tra qualche decina d’anni il nostro corpo fisico sarà completamente sostituibile da un robot, per essere sempre più vicini ad una comunque inarrivabile immortalità. Forse siamo davvero vicini al salutare il nostro debole organismo ed a cambiarlo con un bel fisicaccio robot possente e metallizzato. Abbandoneremo i piaceri del cibo, del bere e del fumare per avviare una dipendenza dall’energia elettrica? Mah…Se non fossi convinto della generale cattiveria del genere umano non penserei che tutto ciò, invece, verrà impiegato più per distruggerci tra di noi che per salvaguardarci.
Sinceramente dubito che sarebbe possibile sostituire tutte le parti del corpo umano in modo da diventare “immortali” e non tanto per il fatto in se quanto per un problema che si verrebbe a creare: supponiamo che cambiando componenti del nostro corpo potessimo arrivare a 150 anni in perfetta salute, chi ci pagherebbe la pensione per 85 anni? o dovremmo lavorare fino a 140 anni? con tutto ciò che implica ossia niente lavoro per TANTE nuove generazioni… penso che il sistema in cui viviamo non sia adatto ad un essere umano così longevo, i problemi che verrebbero a crearsi sarebbero molti e di non facile risoluzione a mio parere…
Ciao
Gio
Bè unendoci alle macchine si allunga la vita, quindi l’età pensionaria slitterebbe di parecchi anni.
A mio parere la tecnologia va avanti a fin di bene ma creerà parecchi danni sia a livello umano che a livello ambientale.
Francamente questo ibrido tra topo e macchina mi ha stupito ma allo stesso tempo mi ha fatto paura, specialmente quando hanno detto che si potrà fare con il cervello umano. E se le macchine ci si rivoltassero contro?
Epoch One: Physics and Chemistry. We can trace our origins to a state that represents information in its basic structures: patterns of matter and energy. Recent theories of quantum gravity hold that time and space are broken down into discrete quanta, essentially fragments of information. There is controversy as to whether matter and energy are ultimately digital or analog in nature, but regardless of the resolution of this issue, we do know that atomic structures store and represent discrete information.
A few hundred thousand years after the Big Bang, atoms began to form, as electrons became trapped in orbits around nuclei consisting of protons and neutrons. The electrical structure of atoms made them “sticky.” Chemistry was born a few million years later as atoms came together to create relatively stable structures called molecules. Of all the elements, carbon proved to be the most versatile; it’s able to form bonds in four directions (versus one to three for most other elements), giving rise to complicated, information-rich, three-dimensional structures.
The rules of our universe and the balance of the physical constants that govern the interaction of basic forces are so exquisitely, delicately, and exactly appropriate for the codification and evolution of information (resulting in increasing complexity) that one wonders how such an extraordinarily unlikely situation came about. Where some see a divine hand, others see our own hands—namely, the anthropic principle, which holds that only in a universe that allowed our own evolution would we be here to ask such questions. Recent theories of physics concerning multiple universes speculate that new universes are created on a regular basis, each with its own unique rules, but that most of these either die out quickly or else continue without the evolution of any interesting patterns (such as Earth-based biology has created) because their rules do not support the evolution of increasingly complex forms.8 It’s hard to imagine how we could test these theories of evolution applied to early cosmology, but it’s clear that the physical laws of our universe are precisely what they need to be to allow for the evolution of increasing levels of order and complexity.
Epoch Two: Biology and DNA. In the second epoch, starting several billion years ago, carbon-based compounds became more and more intricate until complex aggregations of molecules formed self-replicating mechanisms, and life originated. Ultimately, biological systems evolved a precise digital mechanism (DNA) to store information describing a larger society of molecules. This molecule and its supporting machinery of codons and ribosomes enabled a record to be kept of the evolutionary experiments of this second epoch.
Epoch Three: Brains. Each epoch continues the evolution of information through a paradigm shift to a further level of “indirection.” (That is, evolution uses the results of one epoch to create the next.) For example, in the third epoch, DNA-guided evolution produced organisms that could detect information with their own sensory organs and process and store that information in their own brains and nervous systems. These were made possible by second-epoch mechanisms (DNA and epigenetic information of proteins and RNA fragments that control gene expression), which (indirectly) enabled and defined third-epoch information-processing mechanisms (the brains and nervous systems of organisms). The third epoch started with the ability of early animals to recognize patterns, which still accounts for the vast majority of the activity in our brains.10 Ultimately, our own species evolved the ability to create abstract mental models of the world we experience and to contemplate the rational implications of these models. We have the ability to redesign the world in our own minds and to put these ideas into action.
Epoch Four: Technology. Combining the endowment of rational and abstract thought with our opposable thumb, our species ushered in the fourth epoch and the next level of indirection: the evolution of human-created technology. Thisstarted out with simple mechanisms and developed into elaborate automata (automated mechanical machines). Ultimately, with sophisticated computational and communication devices, technology was itself capable of sensing, storing, and evaluating elaborate patterns of information. To compare the rate of progress of the biological evolution of intelligence to that of technological evolution, consider that the most advanced mammals have added about one cubic inch of brain matter every hundred thousand years, whereas we are roughly doubling the computational capacity of computers every year (see the next chapter). Of course, neither brain size nor computer capacity is the sole determinant of intelligence, but they do represent enabling factors.
If we place key milestones of both biological evolution and human technological development on a single graph plotting both the x-axis (number of years ago) and the y-axis (the paradigm-shift time) on logarithmic scales, we find a reasonably straight line (continual acceleration), with biological evolution leading directly to human-directed development.
The above figures reflect my view of key developments in biological and technological history. Note, however, that the straight line, demonstrating the continual acceleration of evolution, does not depend on my particular selection of events. Many observers and reference books have compiled lists of important events in biological and technological evolution, each of which has its own idiosyncrasies. Despite the diversity of approaches, however, if we combine lists from a variety of sources (for example, the Encyclopaedia Britannica, the American Museum of Natural History, Carl Sagan’s “cosmic calendar,” and others), we observe the same obvious smooth acceleration. The following plot combines fifteen different lists of key events.12 Since different thinkers assign different dates to the same event, and different lists include similar or overlapping events selected according to different criteria, we see an expected “thickening” of the trend line due to the “noisiness” (statistical variance) of this data. The overall trend, however, is very clear.
Physicist and complexity theorist Theodore Modis analyzed these lists and determined twenty-eight clusters of events (which he called canonical milestones) by combining identical, similar, and/or related events from the different lists.13 This process essentially removes the “noise” (for example, the variability of dates between lists) from the lists, revealing again the same progression:The attributes that are growing exponentially in these charts are order and complexity, concepts we will explore in the next chapter. This acceleration matches our commonsense observations. A billion years ago, not much happened over the course of even one million years. But a quarter-million years ago epochal events such as the evolution of our species occurred in time frames of just one hundred thousand years. In technology, if we go back fifty thousand years, not much happened over a one-thousand-year period. But in the recent past, we see new paradigms, such as the World Wide Web, progress from inception to mass adoption (meaning that they are used by a quarter of the population in advanced countries) within only a decade.
Epoch Five: The Merger of Human Technology with Human Intelligence. Looking ahead several decades, the Singularity will begin with the fifth epoch. It will result from the merger of the vast knowledge embedded in our own brains with the vastly greater capacity, speed, and knowledge-sharing ability of our technology. The fifth epoch will enable our human-machine civilization to transcend the human brain’s limitations of a mere hundred trillion extremely slow connections.14
The Singularity will allow us to overcome age-old human problems and vastly amplify human creativity. We will preserve and enhance the intelligence that evolution has bestowed on us while overcoming the profound limitations of biological evolution. But the Singularity will also amplify the ability to act on our destructive inclinations, so its full story has not yet been written.
Epoch Six: The Universe Wakes Up. I will discuss this topic in chapter 6, under the heading “…on the Intelligent Destiny of the Cosmos.” In the aftermath of the Singularity, intelligence, derived from its biological origins in human brains and its technological origins in human ingenuity, will begin to saturate the matter and energy in its midst. It will achieve this by reorganizing matter and energy to provide an optimal level of computation (based on limits we will discuss in chapter 3) to spread out from its origin on Earth.
We currently understand the speed of light as a bounding factor on the transfer of information. Circumventing this limit has to be regarded as highly speculative, but there are hints that this constraint may be able to be superseded.15 If there are even subtle deviations, we will ultimately harness this superluminal ability. Whether our civilization infuses the rest of the universe with its creativity and intelligence quickly or slowly depends on its immutability. In any event the “dumb” matter and mechanisms of the universe will be transformed into exquisitely sublime forms of intelligence, which will constitute the sixth epoch in the evolution of patterns of information.
This is the ultimate destiny of the Singularity and of the universe.
The Singularity Is Near
Si parla di neuroni umani, ma da chi vengono “donati” questi neuroni?
La singolarità sembra ormai reale, raggiungibile.
Questo video mi affascina, mi incuriosisce e mi mette paura. Questo video mi ha spinto a scrivere a Daniele per avere più informazioni.
Vi rendete conto? Quel robottino simile ad un qualcosa di radiocomandato si muove ed evita ostacoli perchè è comandato da tessuto vivente… fa venire i brividi!
Spero seguiranno altri post su quest’argomento, e spero vivamente nell’apertura di un forum!
Draven hai perfettamente regione, ma noi siamo portati a vivere sempre di più, a voler rimanere più tempo possibile qui, se ci fosse realmente la possibilità dubito che si penserebbe a ciò che fai notare, piuttosto si adeguerebbero le leggi alla tecnologia, come alla fine si fa con ogni nuova tecnologia: tv, internet, radio…
si anche per me la parte dei topo-robot è stata quella che mi ha affascinato di più…
però a differenza di qualcuno che ha scritto prima di me io non riesco ad avere paura…vedo queste cose come qualcosa di straordinario…certo non sempre la tecnologia è utile per far del bene all’uomo( ad esempio le tecnologie utilizzate in guerra ecc) ma gli studi nella bioingegneria sono necessari per dare all’uomo un futuro anche a dispetto di malattie al momento non curabili…
intanto grazie per aver risposto.. ! qui c’e’ veramente molto materiale su cui iniziare riflettere.. porca miseria
bè.. è un qualcosa che non mi sarei mai immaginato…ormai con tutti i film che vediamo al cinema e in televisione abbiamo perso di vista ciò che è reale e ciò che è fantascienza!
Pensare che quei robottini non sono delle cinesate,ma neuroni di topo che apprendono e si rendono conto dello spazio in cui si trovano e imparano a gestire il “corpo robotico” fa spavento!
Immaginate davvero di poter costruire un robot tipo “terminator” e impiantargli tanti neuroni quanti quelli umani o più…una volta che capisce e si rende conto di essere più resistente e più infallibile in tutto rispetto all’uomo…per noi comuni mortali è finita…
diciamo che è questo che ci spaventa nel nostro inconscio o almeno per quanto mi riguarda.
Anche se una macchina rimane sempre una macchina ed anche se progettata per essere perfetta è sempre un frutto dell’uomo e quindi imperfetto. 🙂
ps. non so se riesco a far capire il mio concetto XD
“Warwick mi diceva che sono troppo potenti rispetto ai loro compiti. I prossimi modelli avranno molti più sensori…”
A me fa pensare molto… Mmmm…
esperimento di un cervello artificiale questo si che è interessante e da una parte posso dire anche un pochino preoccupante,un cervello biologico creato da cellule umane si puo in futuro controllare?delle volte mi fermo a pensare e come in una pellicola vedo il prima e il dopo,vi spiego,ci sono film di fantascienza che annunciano anni prima quello che dopo un po ci fanno vedere in tv come nuove scoperte,nn penso che queste persone vengano ispirate da un film per fare progetti,ma penso che ci sia un metodo per informarci che nn crea al’essere umano una specie di trauma
be…c’è pur sempre la paura che un giorno i robot domineranno il mondo, qui metto una copia della mail che ho inviato a Daniele:
salve, sono un ragazzo di tredici anni, ho visto il servizio di Mistero su Kevin Warwick, vorrei solo dare una mia opinione su una cosa che lei ha fatto nel programma, poi passerò a ciò che le volevo comunicare, allora, le volevo dire che dando la sua e-mail in televisione molto probabilmente non leggera questa mail dato che ne riceverà tantissime, in caso contrario…ecco ciò che le volevo dire: ho visto i robot con il cervello di un topo, e ho osservato che loro stanno imparando,c’è..non so come spiegarmi…intendo dire che i robot che costruivo io…li programmavo con il computer, e da ciò che ho capito dal servizio di Mistero, quei “rat-bot” non sono programmati, ma stanno utilizzando un vero e proprio cervello organico…come un bambino appena nato…che imparano a camminare, tutte queste cose ovviamente lei le sa già…ma volevo dare una mia opinione, se come ha detto Warwick tra 20 o più anni noi saremo dominati dalle macchine, io sentendomi…in pericolo…vorrei dire a tutti questi dottori, professori ecc. di INTERROMPERE le ricerche o forse di non esagerare, perché, se come ha detto Warwick in quest’anno proveranno a installare dei neuroni DI UN’UOMO su una macchina, o come ho letto “robot umanoidi”, e poi tempo di qualche mese, e questa macchina riuscirà a PENSARE PER CONTO PROPRIO, e quindi forse, dopo tanti anni, e dopo che avrà capito che può dominare sull’uomo, inizierà forse a costruire altri robot come lui di nascosto, o comunque in qualche modo, riusciranno a svilupparsi. personalmente non ho problemi contro la ricerca, ma contro la sotto-posizione da parte delle macchine si. se proprio devono costruire questi cyborg, almeno lo faccino con precauzione…ad esempio attaccarlo a una spina per la corrente elettrica con un filo non troppo lungo, in modo da far si che se si allontana troppo si spegne, e poi una domanda…una volta che avranno costruito questo cyborg, cosa ne faranno, c’è, faranno degli esperimenti, ma quale scopo avranno questi esperimenti? questo è tutto, grazie
Ciao a tutti,
volevo sottolineare che in realtà l’idea di simulare il comportamento e il modello di apprendimento dei neuroni (alternativamente ad un comune processore) è già allo studio da parecchi anni nel campo della intelligenza artificiale: si chiamano Reti Neurali (Neural Networks – basta anche cercare su wikipedia e trovate tutte le info), ma finora ne avevo sentito parlare solo dal punto di vista della simulazione informatica o micro elettronica, ma non utilizzando colture di veri neuroni.. ma in fondo pendandoci bene forse la cosa non dovrebbe stupire piu di tanto al giorno d’oggi… 🙂
Grazie per avermi risposto, sto guardando il tuo blog, è impressionante, cioè son cose al limite della fantascienza come avevi detto te!! pensare che un gruppo di cellule riescano a controllare un robot sotto impulsi elettrici….cioè non ci sono parole
Impressionante!!! Chissà cosa succederà quando useranno dei neuroni umani?!?
Salve a tutti! Io come alcuni che hanno scritto qui, sono un pò spaventato da quello che stanno facendo, era “normale” che accadesse è vero, ma io useri i guanti!
Unire una macchina ad un cervello….Lo faranno o probabilmente lo hanno gia fatto, ma è una cosa talmente grande per noi, che non abbiamo la capacità cognitiva di sapere esattamente cosa stiamo facendo, si sta creando un qualcosa di nuovo, che non conosciamo. La si sta creando con due elementi potentissimi: la macchina, che è superiore all’uomo (certo la crea l’uomo, ma è cmq superiore all’uomo) come forza, calcolo, previsione etc…e poi il cervello, questo sconosciuto, o meglio un organo sicuramente conosciuto da noi, ma come tutti sappiamo utilizzato per un 7% mi pare??
Forse la butto un pò sul tragico, ma è una questione che secondo me tra qualche anno, potrebbe portare a dei problemi. Cosa succederà se veramente ci saranno dei cyborg, come Robocop??Mi sembra di parlare di fantascenza ma non lo è mica!! Questi “postumani” avranno sensazioni, sentimenti, rabbia, ira, dolore, amore, etc. etc. etc. Come sarebbe il rapporto tra uomo e cyborg, se questo, come ha scritto qualcuno, potrebbe essere privo di emozioni e scegliere la cosa non giusta ma più facile?
Se mettessero uno di questi cyborg in una posizione di alto privilegio politico o economico, in modo da dover scegliere senza aver rimorsi, rancori, indecisioni perchè la decisione si basa su calcoli, che portano al risultato “facile” o più redditizzio per la propria nazione?? Quando il pianeta sarà ancora più popolato di ora ed ancora più sfruttato, al limite come lo stiamo portando, e bisogna correre ai ripari con la legge della natura, cioè del più forte, cosa che stanno facendo gia ora col controllo climatico etc…Far prendere una decisione di questo tipo ad un uomo è una cosa, ad un cyborg…Ripeto sono un pò tragico, ma ci sono tante cose da vedere, pensare e tener conto per il futuro…
è semplicemente eccitante vedere realizzata una cosa simile, fino a qualche tempo fa vedevo che alcune astronavi della serie Star Trek funzionavano tramite computer funzionanti a sacche con gel bioneurale… ma era fantascienza… il computer riusciva nel telefilm ad organizzare meglio le informazioni ed elaborarle più rapidamente…
quello che succede in questi laboratori è esattamente la medesima cosa, più in piccolo ma il principio di funzionamento è quello… ma questa volta è reale… davvero mi fa pensare molto, non so esattamente se sono preoccupato o spaventato, sono più propenso a pensare sul positivo, cose del genere possono portare a scoperte ben più grandi se usate bene… speriamo davvero che la razza umana inizi un cammino verso la pace e la fratellanza aiutandosi a vicenda per debellare ogni male !!!
francesco
non ho parole come non avevo parole mentre guardavo il servizio,
è assurdo… ma è anche ufficiale ormai siamo a un passo dal nuovo livello, noi tutti saremo testimoni della mutazione globale, ancora tante cose che non riesco a comprendere e mi arrivano troppe informazioni molto velocemente e non riesco ad assorbire in modo equilibrato tutto ciò che si mostra attorno.
Adam Kadmon mesa che ha ragione io nn so dove prende tutte quelle inofrmazioni,lui parla di un libro del sapere,io ho tutta una teoria diversa sul fatto di procurarsi informazioni di tale livello,cmq resta un mio pensiero,ma Adam ci elenca e ci spiega in modo chiaro cosa sara il nostro futuro e ci spiega come tutelarci,associo la trasmisione mistero il mess di Adam e questo blog di Daniele per nn cadere in delle tentazioni,grazie ancora Daniele che ci dai la possibilita di dare sfogo a tutti i nostri pensieri GRAZIE DANIELE
Le cose che adam dice le trovi tranquillamente dentro yt da anni e ti dirò di più prima del 2000 c’erano molte più info su internet è stato tutto censurato ai tempi avevo trovato cose tipo che nel 2003 si era aperto un portale in africa se non ricordo male che portava a zeta reticuli che sia vero o falso non so niente però so che c’erano più info proma del 2000
Incredibile e sconcertante questa cosa!!! un robot comandato da un cervello 2D vero che apprende, assurdo!!! Neanche immaginavo fossimo arrivati a tanto. chissà se oltre a movimenti in un piano orizzontale aumentando i sensori possa capire cosa ha sotto o sopra….
Ma è… un essere vivente in pratica! Ragazzi, più mi documento su queste scoperte più non ci capisco niente, ma non per questo non demordo 😀
Io provo sempre piu’ paura….non vorrei che si superasse il limite! nel senso che queste scoperte se andassero nelle mani sbagliate sarebbe un disastro! 😦
Pazzesco, devo ammettere che l’ uomo sta raggiungendo altezze molto elevate per quanto riguarda la tecnologia… Non vorrei che questa ammirazione si trasformasse in paura…
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ASIC приостановил действие лицензии компании Red Summit Trading Partners Pty Ltd
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Финансовый регулятор Австралии Комиссия по ценным бумагам и инвестициям Австралии (ASIC) информировал общественность о том, что с 7 марта 2018 года он приостановил действие лицензии австралийских финансовых услуг (AFS) компании Red Summit Trading Partners Pty Ltd (Red Summit) на платформе WA.
ASIC обнаружил, что из-за различных кадровых изменений Red Summit в настоящее время не занимается бизнесом в сфере финансовых услуг. Поскольку заявка на изменение лицензии находится в стадии рассмотрения, лицензия Red Summit была предоставлена до 7 сентября 2018 года для обеспечения и демонстрации того, что компания в состоянии выполнить требования, касающиеся лицензии AFS и ведения бизнеса в сфере финансовых услуг.
Если Red Summit не сможет продемонстрировать, что в состоянии возобновить свою деятельность в сфере финансовых услуг, ASIC рассмотрит вопрос о том, следует ли возобновлять лицензию.
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Red Summit уполномочена предоставлять консультации по финансовым продуктам и имеет лицензию AFS с июля 2013 года.
Приостановка лицензии Red Summit является частью усилий ASIC по совершенствованию стандартов в отрасли финансовых услуг.
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